Sineware Community Chat (bridged with Matrix)

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-router/er605/ with OpenWRT installed on it

what type of router is that?

[matrix] <Justin> OK cool, thanks I'll have a dig around.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> maybe this is it https://community.oneplus.com/thread/840709

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I know Devin Lin had to do unbricks for his oneplus 6, he might have some links handy

[matrix] <Justin> Uh the paaaaain. Any good guides for that Seshan (seshpenguin) ?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yea I'd flash stock fully (make sure modem partitions and all are flashed)

[matrix] <Justin> OK it's clearly not the PL2 images that are the issue. Even the pmOS ones don't boot. I wonder if I put a wrong version of Android on it when I was using Android and now it won't accept Linux images booting?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Image boots on my Poco f1, not sure why enchilada is having issues

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Huh that’s weird, I’ll look into it

[matrix] <Justin> I'll try again in the morning. Time for sleep here.

[matrix] <Justin> Android Tools is latest (34.0.4 from https://github.com/nmeum/android-tools)

[matrix] <Justin> Hmm just boot loopin' :(

[matrix] <Justin> Is that warning expected?

[matrix] <Justin> ❱ fastboot flash userdata oneplus-enchilada.img Warning: skip copying userdata image avb footer (userdata partition size: 118112366592, userdata image size: 140724859593288). Sending sparse 'userdata' 1/6 (728997 KB) OKAY [ 25.160s]

i have it set up with an ubuntu server with OVH that routes to my home server 300km away, so my speeds arent gonna be that great

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> i restarted the server and it seems fine now

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> that was my first assumption but i restarted the server but it was happening to me too

[matrix] <Justin> I guess transferring to the other side of the world has its bottlenecks

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the server itself seems fine, i'll try to figureout why its doing that

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> hmm that's not ideal

[matrix] <Justin> Two hours remaining on my downloads 😬

[matrix] <Justin> Was getting about 4-5MB/s now down to 600kB/s :)

[matrix] <Justin> CDN speeds fluctuating 😁

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> test

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Waydroid is on the roadmap, but isn’t available yet in the images

[matrix] <Devin Lin> waydroid... i defer to Seshan (seshpenguin)

[matrix] <Devin Lin> the dialer app is still buggy right now for plasma 6, but in theory telephony is properly enabled on the images now

[matrix] <dasehak> Hello. Has anyone tested calls and/or Waydroid on poco f1?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I’ll add that as a note on the docs

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> np

[matrix] <Szary> thanks for help

[matrix] <Szary> so i tried the standalone version from google and it worked just fine

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I've had problems flashing from distro fastboot, so you could try from https://developer.android.com/tools/releases/platform-tools

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Are you using fastboot from your distro or the standalone ones from google

[matrix] <Szary> yes

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> flashing to userdata right?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Hmm that's weird

[matrix] <Szary> in the middle

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> In the middle of flashing or at the start?

[matrix] <Szary>

[matrix] <Szary> so my problem is that during flashing of the rootfs fastboot is giving me an error message saying that the volume is corrupt

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> a build is running right now that should fix that issue that'll be ready in like 40 mins

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> It boots but there's a PAM issue right now that makes it so you cant login

[matrix] <Szary> Hi, is the pocophone f1 rootfs image broken?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> test

im considering either using my rpi 4 as a server or a diy flipper zero

(i'll be back tomorrow)

I'm physically away from them and rebooted the router and it never came back online

I managed to take out all my servers today

damn

not broken just unusable since it vibrates and makes some weird noise even after i dusted it out

due to a failing fan my home server has been offline for like 2 weeks

Nice

nice

i might try building my own but taking the CPU out of my current server to save some money, r5 3600

the other ones are either from ebay or stuff my dad got from work

with like nvme and stuff

nice

Its one of those ones where they breakdown propritary server motherboards and rebuild them into new motherboards

I got the motherboard from aliexpress

yea

since it seems pretty powerful lol

is that yoimiya?

the tower in the NZXT case was built

question, where did you get all your servers? were they used or new or smth

hi

>>> ERROR: neochat: prepare failed
❌ (buildPackage()) Failed to compile neochat
ERROR: No such package: .makedepends-neochat
❌ Build failed at step build-neochat-abuild: Error: Command failed: sudo apk del .makedepends-neochat
Command exited with non-zero status 1

trolled

🙃

❌ Build failed at step build-tokodon-abuild: Error: Command failed: cd /home/swadmin/jenkins/workspace/plasma-mobile-nightly-alpine-aarch64/workdir/prolinux-nightly/tokodon && abuild -F build
Command exited with non-zero status 1

Lol failing again

also nice server lol

yeaa i'll get around to it soon™️

Using my Poco and pmOS as a server

Builds be dying lmao

very nice

[matrix] <Justin> Fuck yeah, saved an hour building kwin because the only more recent commit was translations!

[matrix] <Justin> Ah fair enough. No ccache when building on Copr so I try not to waste time/resources 😁

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I guess it's more annoying for updating on the client side but

Builds are fast enough with ccache and stuff I just left it

I don't check

[matrix] <Justin> I found this which seems to do the trick. Is it what you use? latest=$(git log -n 1 --perl-regexp --author='^((?!l10n daemon script <scripty@kde.org>).*)$' | head -n 1 | cut -d " " -f 2)

[matrix] <Justin> seshpenguin (legacy account): how do you avoid building git master when it's just a translation update?

welcome

hopefully I have everything setup properly™️

dope

yea you can try poking at random stuff if you want

anyhow if u want me to im down to kill destroy maim security test any stuff ur working on

yeah lmao

also I like how arcanna was the thing to expose me

xD I don't think that's really that exciting

also mk2 is still in shock over the fact that u know how to do stuff in jenkins

ah very nice

however, group consensus was that it was a cool set of projects

lolllll

they did not agree with the aesthetic choice of putting an anime character on ur website

oh boy lol

during lunch

they found ur website at work

hey lmao

hey <@293903205455233026> lol

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:69 (find_package): By not providing "FindKF5BreezeIcons.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by "KF5BreezeIcons", but CMake did not find one.

Arm64 builds failing again lol

Mobile shell was last updated in 2019, sad

And most other things won't work on that build for other phones

Yeah but it's like a really old build

including calling

on the lumia an older build of windows 10 I think is almost totally functional

Windows 10/11 doesn't have a working calling stack, probably needs the apps from the lumia950 folks

I tried windows 11 on my old lumia 950xl and it was not great lol

thats pretty good

Cellular does

calling/texting works?

And touch firmware not loading after waking up

Only thing that doesn't work under windows is audio, sensors and camera

If it wasn't for the touchscreen dying after idle

lmao

Hell even windows 11 kinda runs better on beryllium

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the mobile shell itself is basically developed by just <@121377781950054403> whose been pretty busy lately so

:(

Ubuntu touch still on that downstream grind and still no focal (for Poco at least)

yeaaa

And mobian has broken builds since like November so that's not any better

On Poco the power button hold is broken, keyboard is fucked, settings has most settings greyed out, audiotube just doesn't work, terminal just not showing some lines for some reason kwin still crashing randomly without a way to recover

pretty much all development effort has gone into plasma 6 so thats not entirely surprising

Kinda sad how almost all the bugs that were in PM in December are still here rn

but this is nice because its very hard to corrupt the system which is good for a phone

yea for like my computer and stuff I like a normal setup

I like the traditional/standard way more

Idk how immutable works kek

and you can wipe them to get back to default state

Wacky

changes get saved to a separate directory thats overlayed on the rootfs

You can toggle immutable on and off

yea

Oh wait immutable

Lmao

touchscreen doesn't work anyway atleast on tianma so thats fun lol

need to add that

Where ebbg

Tianma 😭

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:48 (find_package):
  By not providing "FindFutureSQL5.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this project
  has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
  "FutureSQL5", but CMake did not find one.

i've also been working on super secret https://sineware.ca/prolinux/

yea i'll look into it

Looked at it yesterday i forgor

Looks like it's just missing some deps

I had exams and then my first week of the co-op term

Amazing

soon™️

Fix wen

neglecting plasma mobile nightly

yea I have been

Amazing

Audiotube breaking CI

is this going to be on plasma 6?

maybe? idk

will the rewrite be in 5.27.5?

oh nice

I know <@121377781950054403> rewrote it to crash less for plasma 6

ah interesting yea the current volume ui is kinda cursed

if you launched an app but it hasnt fully opened yet, and you press either of the volume keys, the whole ui crashes except the app.

its from pressing the volume keys while an app loads

i finally figured out the cause for so many crashes ive had

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> also it's on qt5 anyway so not much super new

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yesterdays build succeeded though, but I haven't tested it in a while so I would hold off probably

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> 🙃

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)>

[matrix] <Justin> How is the PlaMo nightly build at the moment? I'm setting up my phone for daily driving and I'm not sure if I upgrade yet or hold off.

[matrix] <Justin> O K ...

[matrix] <Justin> Deleted message and then a damn okay? 😐🤨🤔

Damn okay

Kay 10 mins is up, bye

[matrix] <Justin> Worth a try

like more better than what Im currently doing

I wonder if thats useful for plasma mobile nightly

iiinteresting, never heard of that

"aportgen"

[matrix] <Justin> Rather interesting. You can clone a git repo and build it using pmbootstrap.

[matrix] <Justin> $ git clone --depth 1 plasma-mobile -b master $ pmbootstrap aportgen --fork-alpine plasma-mobile $ pmbootstrap build --src=plasma-mobile --arch=aarch64plasma-mobile $ pmbootstrap sideload plasma-mobile

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> npm install

[matrix] <Justin> Blah I can't be bothered finding my notes, what was the command to install the dependencies node-type stuff etc?

[matrix] <Justin> Ah nice. I'll have a look.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> theres a command you can use in the readme of the repo

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh right yea

[matrix] <Justin> Might be worth adding little snippet on how to run the x86_64 .img file via qemu or something.

[matrix] <Justin> That 1.6MB/s home internet upload speed, zoooooom 😆

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ..oh right the script does not work with android-based pmos images yet

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yea SDM845 devices are next on my list of things to support

[matrix] <Justin> Oh nice! I only have the OP6 but I'd be happy to try it once you release. I might try the generic image.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> also as a side note I have a couple images up now at https://sineware.ca/prolinux/ 😄

[matrix] <Justin> Don't worry too much about it at the moment.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> You probably don't need all the squashfs stuff honestly, thats for my a/b update scheme and stuff maybe I should try and modularize the build script so you can skip that

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> also I split out the final image generation step to a separate command: "TARGET_DEVICE=whatever npm run gen-image"

[matrix] <Justin> I'll get started by forking.

[matrix] <Justin> The last 3 bits hurt my fragile brain lol.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yea you can probably just fork for now

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> and place the squashfs inside pmOS_root partition

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> and then make a postmarketOS image and modify it with the custom init in distro-files/initramfs/init

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> The rest of code will place the created rootfs into a squashfs image

[matrix] <Justin> OK thanks!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> other than that it should be good I think...!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> line 197 is also kdesrc-build specific and arch/my distro stuff

[matrix] <Justin> And pulling upstream code etc.

[matrix] <Justin> I'm just trying to figure out the best way for me to edit the code or maybe use a fork or something but I'm no good with using git and branches etc.

[matrix] <Justin> Yeah all good.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yup

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yeaa I didnt plan for this code to be used with multiple distros as the base lol

[matrix] <Justin> This is all in index.ts right?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> if so it assumes there is a user called "user"

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> line 164 is where it does kdesrc-build idk if you also want that

[matrix] <Justin> I wish this was all in bash then I'd create some case statements for Arch and for Fedora.

[matrix] <Justin> OK makes notes

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> thats also where it creates users and stuff

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the pacman-key and -S and stuff

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> then the exec on line 72 (xec(`sudo arch-chroot ${ROOTFS_DIR} /bin/bash -x <<'EOF') theres a bunch of arch-related setup styff you'll want to remove

[matrix] <Justin> 👍️

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> point it to a fedora rootfs targz

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> first thing would be the " const ARCH_URL " part

[matrix] <Justin> Alright Seshan (seshpenguin) I'm putting some time aside now to look at building Fedora images with your script. What bits will I need to change?

just after a recent update it crashed and relaunched 🎉

very nice

and timezones work

it hasnt crashed all day on 5.27.3

im trying pmos again

[matrix] <Justin> Oh nice!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Someone also donated on Liberapay so that also helped

[matrix] <Justin> Not too bad I guess.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> it was $100 off from a university discount

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> well 😅

[matrix] <Justin> I hope you got that M2 dirt cheap Seshan (seshpenguin) :D

[matrix] <Justin> Have source dir, make an archive using git archive, use that as source of package.

[matrix] <Justin> I guess Fedora is a bit easier than APKbuilds in that respect, though mine is a bit of a hack.

[matrix] <Justin> Aww :(

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the problem is I would need to basically rewrite a bunch/all of the apkbuild files... so idk maybe when plasma 6 itself releases honestly

[matrix] <Justin> Ooh nice. I should find a way to backup my pmOS install as a disk image or something so I can easily test out new stuff and then just restore the disk image to the device to resume normal use.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> which maybe I can launch an image today??

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> but actually not soon since all my efforts have been on my new distro idea

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> soon™

[matrix] <Justin> Sooo Plasma 6 pmOS Sineware repo when? 😁

[matrix] <Justin> :(

[matrix] <Justin> Oh

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I use stuff that’s not in the busybox/whatever versions of the commands

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Ohh yea it probably won’t work on postmarketOS as the host

[matrix] <Justin> Looks like it's interpretting the -L as a block count, but I've never had to specify a block count for mkfs.ext4 ... 🤔

[matrix] <Justin> Sadly no go, I even ran as root just to be sure:

/home/user/prolinux-2 # TARGET_DEVICE=tablet-x64uefi npm run build; date > /home/user/end

> prolinux-2@1.0.0 build
> ts-node src/index.ts  

Starting ProLinux build on 3/27/2023, 7:40:36 PM
Build dirs: /home/user/prolinux-2/build, /home/user/prolinux-2/build/rootfs, /home/user/prolinux-2/distro-files
Platform arch: arm64
Target device: tablet-x64uefi
Downloading Arch root from http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-aarch64-latest.tar.gz
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
100  517M  100  517M    0     0  3521k      0  0:02:30  0:02:30 --:--:-- 4231k^[[1;6C
umount: /home/user/prolinux-2/build/rootfs/: not mounted
Creating and mounting rootfs.img
mke2fs 1.47.0 (5-Feb-2023)
mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks '-L' on device '/home/user/prolinux-2/build/rootfs.img'
Error: Command failed: sudo mkfs.ext4 /home/user/prolinux-2/build/rootfs.img -L pmOS_root
    at checkExecSyncError (node:child_process:885:11)
    at Object.execSync (node:child_process:957:15)
    at exports.default (/home/user/prolinux-2/src/helpers/exec.ts:3:26)
    at main (/home/user/prolinux-2/src/index.ts:52:9)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/home/user/prolinux-2/src/index.ts:255:5)
    at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1254:14)
    at Module.m._compile (/home/user/prolinux-2/node_modules/ts-node/src/index.ts:1618:23)
    at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1308:10)
    at Object.require.extensions.<computed> [as .ts] (/home/user/prolinux-2/node_modules/ts-node/src/index.ts:1621:12) {
  status: 1,
  signal: null,
  output: [ null, null, null ],
  pid: 3902,
  stdout: null,
  stderr: null
}

[matrix] <Justin> Trying my first bulid Seshan (seshpenguin) (@seshpenguin:sineware.ca)

[matrix] <Justin> 👍️

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I haven't tested recently so maybe hold off for now

[matrix] <Justin> Seshan (seshpenguin): Is the plasma-milou issue fixed? I've reflashed my phone but I dont wanna add the repo if it's just going to explode again 😁

[matrix] <Justin> Mmmm

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> (good exposure too lol)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yea that would be nice

[matrix] <Justin> Once you have images you could see if UBPorts would add them to their installer :)

[matrix] <Justin> I guess I could somehow download the apks to my device and scp them across but that sounds like lots of effort.

[matrix] <Justin> So I can't fix this plasma-milou issue

[matrix] <Justin> OK bugger I think I need to hose my phone and flash again. It's not showing my WiFi adapter so I can't get updates.

[matrix] <Justin> Ah

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> make sure you have enough diskspace cause the script will allocate a 32gb image to stage the rootfs in

[matrix] <Justin> Thank Thor for the usbnetworking on pmos otherwise I wouldn't be able to get to my phone :D

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh also the script will fail cause kdesrc-build is not building plasma-mobile properly right now lol

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> it shouldnt be a problem it'll just build locally

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I think the script has a distcc host IP hard coded though

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yea

[matrix] <Justin> Ah OK so all this needs to be done on my OP6.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> sure

[matrix] <Justin> Are you able to add these to the README with a list of valid target devices?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> right now you can't cross compile so you can only make an arm image on an arm device

[matrix] <Justin> Done.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> then to start the build:

TARGET_DEVICE=tablet-x64uefi npm run build

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> then you do "npm install" (not in any subfolder)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the submodule update is correct

[matrix] <Justin> Alright Seshan (seshpenguin) how do I use this image builder? I have installed the stuff I needed. I ran the following:

git submodule update --init
cd src
npm i @types/node -D
cd ../src/ocs2-prolinuxd/src
npm i @types/node -D

I tried tsc index.ts in both src directories but I get errors.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I also just woke up very late lol

[matrix] <Justin> Oh very late, damn.

[matrix] <Justin> I know it's rather late there Seshan (seshpenguin) just wondering if you're around.

[matrix] <Justin> I'm so lazy, I just want someone to provide the script that does all the things lol. I keep putting too many things "on my plate"

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I'll be ready :D

[matrix] <Justin> Expect around 6.2million questions :D

[matrix] <Justin> I'll clone it when I'm back at my PC and have a poke.

[matrix] <Justin> Oh nice.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the script does do some other stuff too btw, like it puts the finished rootfs into a squashfs (for immutable root and a/b updating)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yep https://github.com/Sineware/prolinux-2

[matrix] <Justin> Is the image builder publicly available where I could fork it and potentially tweak it to a Fedora layout and dnf?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Though I've built it around Arch so it uses pacman and assumes Arch's filesystem layout and stuff

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> conceptually yea it should

[matrix] <Justin> So Seshan (seshpenguin) do you think your new OS creation tool would work with a Fedora raw image? https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/37/Spins/aarch64/images/Fedora-Minimal-37-1.7.aarch64.raw.xz

[matrix] <Justin> I haven't had a chance to look into it, posted the issue last night before going to bed and forgot until I opened Element and got your reply :D

[matrix] <Justin> Seems that might be the case.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> and i guess that broke for kf5?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> oh interesting there seems to be no 5.27 branch of milou, so it mustve been compiling master

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> uh oh

https://tenor.com/view/bork-dog-gif-20097738

[matrix] <Justin> Seems latest update went Bork.

[matrix] <Justin>

[matrix] <Justin> I haven't but I like Breeze styling.

there doesnt seem to be a widget style part of the settings

has anyone ever tried getting kvantum on plasma mobile?

progress

but hey it is autosuspending

postmarketos still doesnt reopen plasma when it crashes and time doesnt seem to work :/

[matrix] <Justin> Ooooof

tysm

dam ill have to try that tommorrow

so it should be in 5.27.3

maybe a week or 2 ago?

about

when did that happen?

unless its already there too I havent tested normal pmos

should be yea

on pmos edge

so it should be in the next plasma update?

I didnt do anything special

whenever it slept

just updates

and it jsut crashed

cuz on pmos i tried to install suspend dependency i dont remember what it was

did you change anything around that or is it just updates?

dam

my builds

on ur builds or official pm?

😱

yea

really

wait

on nightly

auto suspend actually started working on my pinephone at some point recently

but i need it to make it at least one day

i can charge at the end

i cant make the phone thru one day

people who daily drive lol

dosent auto suspend, drains battery

[matrix] <Justin> Psht who needs suspend 😆

[matrix] <Justin> postmarketOS

pmos doesnt auto suspend

ok so what other distro should i use -_-

[matrix] <Justin> Oh well Manjaro and stable don't really belong in the same sentence.

this always happens on anything plasma

fresh install

im using manjaro stable lol

[matrix] <Justin> As for why it always dies, well probably because you're running git builds of software that generally is where most of the bugs live :D

[matrix] <Justin> Extracts file information/content from files for indexing/searching.

what is baloo file extractor and why does it always die and do nothing?

[matrix] <Justin> (Context: I use git log to determine the most recent commit ID and compare with my current builds to see if I've done it to determine if it needs to be built or can be skipped)

[matrix] <Justin> That works I found out just now from the KDE Devel channel.

[matrix] <Justin> git log -P --author='^(?!l10n)'

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I should probably make it do that though

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> they don't actually

[matrix] <Justin> I just found out about git log -E --invert-grep --grep="^(GIT|SVN)_SILENT"

[matrix] <Justin> Seshan (seshpenguin): Your nightly builds ignore translation commits don't they? How do you do it?

[matrix] <Justin> Nah it wasn't in the list.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I would check myself but none of my phones are in a usable state cause I was testing stuff lol

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> was audiotube in the list of updated packages?

[matrix] <Justin> Hmm I got all updates but no audiotube. I still don't see that three dots they talk of.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> oo thats nice

[matrix] <Justin> Can't wait for the requests I made to go into apk. Sorted list in packages to upgrade.

[matrix] <Justin> Oh might have been after I did my updates. I'll check, thanks.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> seems to have built audiotube yesterday

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)>

[matrix] <Justin> Yeah I thought so.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I think that should be built and in by now

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> huh

[matrix] <Justin> Just looking for this in Audiotube but I can't find it https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/audiotube/-/merge_requests/67#note_639491

[matrix] <Justin> All good.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> probably will look into Qt 6 stuff next week

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> It's midterm exams time right now for me so 😅

[matrix] <Justin> Ah OK

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> They're running but still tracking KF5

[matrix] <Justin> So are PlaMo builds for pmOS on hold?

[matrix] <Justin> Haha that fan is so cute!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> WD 40: can be used to fix small raspberry pi fans 👍

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ima_96b3a57.jpeg

<system> file ima_96b3a57.jpeg too big to download (1377664 > allowed size: 1000000)

[matrix] <Justin> Pi webserver ❤️

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> (now replaced by a nvme drive which is also bigger)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ^ the old ssd from the raspberry pi

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ima_8611eaf.jpeg

<system> file ima_8611eaf.jpeg too big to download (3648350 > allowed size: 1000000)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Upgrade complete!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Website will be offline for a while (maybe half an hour or so) while I upgrade the disk on the web server

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yea I'm not gonna look into it further, since I need to work on getting plasma 6 building anyway

[matrix] <robgriff444> could be lol the plasma folks can sometimes have their eyes off the correct ball, anyway i'm gonna install the stable version 1st

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Also somewhat annoyingly the shell isn't starting again so maybe the mesa downgrade was a fluke???

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> 👍️

[matrix] <robgriff444> got it working with ssh user@172.16.42.1

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> It can be kinda weird sometimes, like it doesn't work on my desktop for some reason but is fine on my pinebookpro

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> does the usb ethernet show up?

[matrix] <robgriff444> same error

[matrix] <robgriff444> it's now connected to pc with usb

[matrix] <robgriff444> i'm a idiot, it's a new flash from today so with the shell crash i haven't set the wifi password dum dum dum

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> if you plug the phone into your computer you can do ssh user@172.16.42.1

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> did the phone auto connect to wifi properly?

[matrix] <robgriff444> through wifi

[matrix] <robgriff444> i'm not an ssh expert, i just use ssh [ip] and i get connection refused

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> through the usb networking anyway

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> those should have ssh running

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yea

[matrix] <robgriff444> pinephone pro from https://sineware.ca/prolinux/plasma-mobile-nightly/

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh if it's the pinephone images that I make, they should have sshd enabled already

[matrix] <robgriff444> ah ok, i flashed it from your page straight to sd card so i'll flash the stable version 1st thanks

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> If you flashed postmarketOS through pmbootstrap then the sshd service is not running by default (have to turn it on using rc-service sshd start). If you're not able to actually use the device currently, you're pretty much bricked sadly and need to reflash to stable first and then enable ssh and update to nightly (unless you have prolinuxd installed and setup, then you can use the cloud terminal)

[matrix] <robgriff444> Seshan (seshpenguin): maybe i'm being stupid but to update as you mentioned (thx btw) i would ssh into it but it tells me ports closed, is this right ie ssh not enabled? I don't have kbd btw

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Plasma Mobile Nightly is now (temporarily) tracking the 5.27 branch. In addition, there seems to be a Mesa bug (or at least a Mesa and KDE interaction bug) in Alpine edge that prevents the shell from starting, so you can downgrade Mesa using "sudo apk add ./mesa-22.2.5-r1.apk ./mesa-gbm-22.2.5-r1.apk ./mesa-egl-22.2.5-r1.apk ./mesa-dri-gallium-22.2.5-r1.apk ./mesa-gl-22.2.5-r1.apk ./mesa-gles-22.2.5-r1.apk" with the packages downloaded from https://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.17/main/aarch64/

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yea thats probably what i'll do in the interim

[matrix] <Justin> (for Fedora)

[matrix] <Justin> I was able to just change my local src repos to the Plasma/5.27 branch and carry on (at least from my initial testing).

[matrix] <Justin> Ewf

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> also it seems the last successful build has a kwin bug that makes plasma not start (I think) so thats fun

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Plasma mobile nightly builds will be not working for a while now since the plasma stuff switched to qt6

[matrix] <Justin> True fair enough.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> They probably could... but it's very annoying to maintain that, nobody wants that pain :P

[matrix] <Justin> I wonder if Alpine would ever introduce a git branch for packages, and then builds could be done directly into their repos :D

[matrix] <Justin> Ah awesome.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)>

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> and actually in the case of that specific kidletime commit I already had those dependencies added

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I misread your original message lol so yea basically shell and apps + frameworks (kidletime is one of them) updated apkbuilds for all those packages are pulled in each time

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> everything that's defined in here: https://github.com/Sineware/plasma-mobile-nightly/blob/main/src/apkbuild-parser/repo.ts

[matrix] <Justin> Ah so only plasma mobile shell and apps are built nightly?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> i’m not specifically compiling those myself

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> once it’s compiled on their edge repository

[matrix] <Justin> For instance this commit https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/commit/?id=94e7664271a1d731c4b5573a2058c4a7fee84e0c

[matrix] <Justin> Typing on maliit keyboard is not a smooth thing yet :D

[matrix] <Justin> to*

[matrix] <Justin> Are changes toboa plamo packages upstream brought down to the nightl packages?

iRloveU

[matrix] <Justin> Sadly there aren't any good ones just yet. Kalendar is getting mail support put in and Devin Lin is working a new client called Raven but he's not going to use Akonadi as it's heavy and well, ugh. He's working on connecting a new backend to it.

does anyone know any good email clients for plasma mobile

[matrix] <Justin> And it's semi "for-work" as I manage 110 roughly servers and I want my own custom built dashboard for it.

[matrix] <Justin> Yeah it's helped me learn a lot about bash, netcat, php and sql in the process.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> seems like a fun project

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> lol it's all good

[matrix] <Justin> Anyway, sorry for the off topic :D

[matrix] <Justin> Instead of using my bash to check that and place the string in the database.

[matrix] <Justin> Learning about if statements in the php at the moment so I want to move some of the processing of data into there so if backup_status = succeeded, then print ✅ SUCCESS

[matrix] <Justin> I use netcat for capturing data that the servers send. I'm going to move that to php once I learn more about capturing variables.

[matrix] <Justin>

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> nice

[matrix] <Justin> Next iteration will remove netcat and sqlite will be replaced with mysql or something a bit more robust as there's a lot of info in it and lots of regular updates/queries.

[matrix] <Justin> Oh and throw in some javascript for good measure (just a snippet for auto refresh)

[matrix] <Justin> php, html, sqlite, bash, netcat.

[matrix] <Justin> A mess of everything 🤣

[matrix] <Justin>

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> what are you making it in?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> cool

[matrix] <Justin> I'm over here building a dashboard for monitoring servers health.

[matrix] <Justin> Niiice!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> yup

[matrix] <Justin> Oh nice, so one can easily rebuild kwin from source on device?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> highlight features include coredump viewer and the ability to recompile nightly packages against a repo link or branch

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> plctl command line tool now available in the prolinuxd package for plasma mobile nightly!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)>

so its not fundamentally different

[matrix] <Devin Lin> fairly easy, but there is a lot of code to port

[matrix] <Justin> Not a clue, I don't touch code, makes my head explode. I'm a bash writing sysadmin 😀

but like in terms of how simple it is to convert from qt5 to qt6

[matrix] <Justin> Like any toolkit I imagine, newer features, better perf, better security, less bugs.

[matrix] <Justin> /me runs

[matrix] <Justin> +1

how different is qt5 from qt6

dang

[matrix] <Justin> It's now commercial only afaiu.

[matrix] <Justin> Via the KDE patch collection only.

does it get small updates though?

damn

[matrix] <Devin Lin> the last major version of qt 5 was released 3 years ago

manjaro 💀

and qt5 isnt?

[matrix] <Devin Lin> can't say that "everything will be fixed", there are so many different unrelated ways things crash but at least it's more likely to since qt 6 is under active development

so your saying the contant crashing will likelly be fixed?

[matrix] <Devin Lin> there are a lot of incomprehensible crashes that just end up somewhere in qt 5, hopefully can actually have a chance to be fixed in qt6

[matrix] <Justin> I would bet on it fixing some things and breaking others. Big changes like this always do.

would the upgrade to qt6 mess stuff up on mobile?

like how much of the autosuspend and crashing issues are caused by qt and how many are just wayland

does anyone know how likelly it is that plasma 6 will break things

awww autosuspend doesnt work :/

so far not a single crash, fingers crossed

lets gooo 🎉

im not forced to use manjarno anymore

all the pmos specific issues ive been having (other than wifi not autoconnecting) are fixed in the new plasma update 😄

[matrix] <Justin> Thanks!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/issues/1049

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Removes the "permissions" line from the network manager file for the network

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> https://github.com/Sineware/ocs2-prolinuxd/blob/a7ddc8996decf70fa277167cb41db4b5dd76ece7/src/modules/plasma-mobile-nightly/index.ts#L10

[matrix] <Justin> Seshan (seshpenguin): what is the wifi fix in the prolinuxd package? I had a workaround before but forgot to document it.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> image.png

<system> file image.png too big to download (1168887 > allowed size: 1000000)

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> A basic version of ProLinuxD for Plasma Mobile Nightly is now released!

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)>

(im pretty sure pmbootstrap can export fastboot flashable images)

Yea I could probably add a couple of popular android devices to the image generator if people want

Any hope for a beryllium prebuilt image?

[matrix] <Justin> Yeah.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I need to update that with a separate direct register link button

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> from the link on the homepage?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh yea

[matrix] <Justin> PS I was just poking around and saw https://id.sineware.ca/realms/sineware/account/#/ - it's not obvious I should hit Sign in to register.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> xD

[matrix] <Justin> Mmm oh well no big deal. I'm going to go sit on the couch and watch TV after making some food. I'm done. Wrestling with Mastodon and CORS and Apache2 I'm over today :D

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> but yea that commit is in the builds

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> interesting lol

[matrix] <Justin> Interestingly my screenshots are 1 pixel wider than my screen resolution 🤔

[matrix] <Justin>

[matrix] <Justin> Mine has nothing :/

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> It shows 5.27.80 for me

[matrix] <Justin> Yeah

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> in settings Justin

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Are you talking about the "KDE Plasma Version" line

[matrix] <Justin> As it still doesn't show for me in Information in System Settings. I thought that would fix it.

grep X-KDE-PluginInfo-Version /usr/share/wayland-sessions/plasma.desktop 
X-KDE-PluginInfo-Version=5.27.0

[matrix] <Justin> Seshan (seshpenguin): can you confirm this is in the latest build? https://invent.kde.org/plasma-mobile/plasma-settings/-/commit/311bd1a6770fab657eb486a8080cc99edef6c7a2

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Just updated the matrix server

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> test2

test

[matrix] <Justin> Ah

And the surface duo project

The supported devices are all qualcomm based chips, so a lot of the hard parts are already taken care of cause of ARM windows laptops

Yea I think that’s the case

[matrix] <Justin> Is it a just becuase they can project?

https://renegade-project.tech/en/home

Yes

I remember seeing the Windows 11 on phones project somewhere

is that a pocophone

nice touhou

🧌

ok fixed

bruh lol

<#780913370626916404> too

that channel is rendered on https://pages.sineware.ca/999112961354366976

oops

<@121377996555812866> threads too

😭

<@706618901995323446> oh whoops your not supposed to be able to send messages in the wiki channel lol

[matrix] <Justin> Ah nice!

[matrix] <Justin> Ah

I already have a thing like this setup on the discord

[matrix] <Justin> 👍️

Yep yep

[matrix] <Justin> Just to make sure we're on the same page, this job would only run once, at the end of all of the packages. Not once per package.

[matrix] <Justin> Obviously it'd only run once a day but if you want to do it in another room that's fine.

[matrix] <Justin> Sure.

Yea I can, maybe in a different room so it doesn't clutter up the main room?

[matrix] <Justin> It just takes a curl job to the Matrix API.

[matrix] <Justin> Can you add a job at the end of the queue to send a notification here?

[matrix] <Justin> Ooooh nice!

also figured out how to make distcc use all the cores so aarch64 builds are faster

Plasma mobile nightly builds are now up and running again (kf5 branches)

I’ll need to dynamically patch the pkgbuilds or something

Yea I noticed the builds started to fail today

[matrix] <Devin Lin> unless we point it at kf5 for now (every framework repo has one called kf5)

[matrix] <Devin Lin> kf6 branching just happened so every framework is targeting qt6, all pkgbuilds probably need to be redone

[matrix] <Devin Lin> there's going to be some big fun

ive experienced the same issue with plasma dissapearing on manjaro... except on manjaro, it just relaunches itself after 5 seconds

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh nice!

[matrix] <Justin> ``` The following packages will be REMOVED: lame The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: kirigami2-libs kirigami2 kactivities-libs karchive kconfig kcoreaddons kwindowsystem kcrash kdbusaddons kglobalaccel kguiaddons ki18n kauth kcodecs kwidgetsaddons kconfigwidgets kiconthemes kitemviews kxmlgui kbookmarks kcompletion kdoctools kjobwidgets knotifications kservice solid-libs sonnet ktextwidgets kio kpackage kdeclarative kwayland plasma-framework kwallet purpose angelfish breeze-gtk attica kidletime knewstuff kirigami-addons kclock kdecoration kde-gtk-config kfilemetadata kcontacts kpeople kcalendarcore kcmutils frameworkintegration oxygen modemmanager-qt plasma-dialer plasma-phonebook kded bluez-qt bluedevil breeze libkscreen layer-shell-qt kscreen kwallet-pam kwayland-integration breeze-icons kactivities plasma-nano networkmanager-qt plasma-nm plasma-settings kactivitymanagerd kinit kdnssd syntax-highlighting kquickcharts kscreenlocker kwin kitemmodels threadweaver krunner milou qqc2-desktop-style plasma-integration plasma-workspace-libs kactivities-stats baloo kholidays knotifyconfig kparts prison ktexteditor libksysguard plasma-workspace kpty kde-cli-tools qqc2-breeze-style plasma-mobile polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil-libs powerdevil xdg-desktop-portal-kde qmlkonsole The following NEW packages will be installed: lame-libs

```

This is the diff between alpine/pmOS base repos and the nightly repo.

[matrix] <Justin> Just apk upgrade -a does it apparently.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I don't think Alpine has anything like that

[matrix] <Justin> Fedora has distrosync or something.

[matrix] <Justin> Is there a way to sync with the default repos if I remove the nightly one easily?

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> ok

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh

[matrix] <Justin> Unlocking goes back to black screen.

[matrix] <Justin> Ah it was the lockscreen coming on.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> oh?

[matrix] <Justin> Interesting, after a fewr minutes the screen just showed up.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> i'll look into it

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> fun...

[matrix] <Justin> I thought I borked the update myself initially as I had to reboot while discover was acting up. Reimaged, updated and yeah, still fubar.

[matrix] <Justin> Unlock via ssh just shows a black screen.

[matrix] <Justin> Boots to the failed lock screen message

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> what happened

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Uh oh

[matrix] <Justin> Last update borked hard.

Tho ill probably save the money for a new GPU, the rx560 is getting slow

I could yeah

I guess you could buy a pcie usb card if you wanted to fix that

Yeah weird :/

Yeah it will just disconnect at random times and on the phone side it will freak out too, my Intel machine does it first try, same drivers and cable

x670 seems fine for me

oh thats weird

Happens both on win and Linux, can't flash a single phone on that machine lmao

One thing I don't like about Ryzen chipsets is that even my b550 board has the USB bug(?) Which makes it impossible to use fastboot

and I had to wait a few weeks for a new am5 bracket for the liquid cooler

since I bought am5 early I had some random problems like the first kit of ram I bought had a weird imcompatibility

am4 is still a very solid platform anyway

Well "just"... Just before they started selling am5 boards

I'd also switch but man did I feel bad since I also just upgraded my board

I bought an AM5 motherboard last month for my new pc

Yeah

I mean't like you can't upgrade from am4 to 5 without a new motherboard

Yea it should

Tho I won't need to upgrade in a while anyways

They are saying am5 will live just as long as am4 did

Which is also the reason I'm buying that MX6, the thermals are really bad rn lol

ah

It's supposed to be easy enough to take it off but I'm using transistor paste as cooling solution which is really tacky

lol that's happened to me before too

This also happened with the new CPU lol

until am5 anyway

and the nice thing with Ryzen is you usually dont need to change motherboards

yea

Yeah, upgraded from a R5 2400G to R7 5800X and it's a massive jump honestly

This is still shipping tho

oo nice

Recently upgraded

And my printer throwing an ASSERT

I approve lol

Yes

lmao is that your motherboard screwed into the side of a shelf???

https://discord.com/channels/780913369682149408/999112961354366976/1063868463434715289

Very reliable

[matrix] <Justin> What changed in the new version that makes it usable for you?

before i make a single password attempt

for 3 incorrect password attempts

now sometimes i get lockde out

ok so uh

🎉

for the most part

now i can finally have a phone that works for daily driver 😃

yayyyyyyyyyyy the new plasma is out

[matrix] <Justin> Oh nice!

First prototype of log viewer in the sineware cloud portal for plasma mobile nightly

:skull_1:

[matrix] <pistachioguy> This message was also sent from my pinephone

it works ok for basic chatting but you cant call or use the reply thing because right clicking doesnt work

[matrix] <Justin> Nice!

using a client called abaddon

this message was sent from my pinephone

hmm yea that looks simple enough

[matrix] <Justin> https://github.com/desbma/gotify-desktop something like this might be the go, small daemon to receive messages and send as desktop alerts.

[matrix] <Justin> Ugh no gotify client on pmOS ☹️

Yea i've seen some of that

[matrix] <Justin> And I know KDE is working on push notification stuff.

The Discord already has a channel with build notification, I could make a Matrix room with it too...

[matrix] <Justin> I used to use gotify to send myself alerts.

It's possible :P

[matrix] <Justin> Was just thinking we could have a push notification after the nightly build completes to our phones 😄

yayyy suspension works

thats a nice little bonus

and also timezones work lol

cuz thats where i set my wifi

i think the wifi thing might be fixed with the welcome to manjaro thing

i think espi found it was some networkmanager config or something

Yea stuff like the wifi not saving are postmarketos quirks

and im not sure if suspension works i havent had the time to test it

locking still doesnt work cuz no update yet

im using manjaro now. a lot of the issues with wifi not saving and stuff seem to be fixed

[matrix] <Justin> It's about protecting revenue. If users can get the same app on another store that doesn't have a 30% apple tax, they will.

if it was actually about protecting their users, they would just put some big "THIS IS PROBABLY A VIRUS" warning but let people do it anyway if they rlly know what they doing

[matrix] <Justin> For the basics of course, then the user can add flatpaks (which I can also package) for items they want.

[matrix] <Justin> Let me know how you go. I did help Travier with getting the nightly builds done for the Kinoite setup so they can easily be used in the image.

It's probably something I'll explore in the future

[matrix] <Justin> I tried to create a Fedora image for my OP6 but it's just beyond my understanding a bit.

[matrix] <Justin> I've tried to understand the kernel builds and image builds and how the partitions work but it's a bit beyond me.

[matrix] <Justin> Could be done I guess. I'm just no good at knowing how the images get put together. I can package all day long no worries.

having the system be immutable and apps in containers

One of the things I have been thinking about is for plasma mobile kinda related to this is we should have like a mobile version something like fedora silverblue

[matrix] <Justin> If it can be communicated with, a user can be scammed.

[matrix] <Justin> Can an iPhone receive an SMS? User can be scammed. End of story.

[matrix] <Justin> Typical scaremongering bullshit.

yep

[matrix] <Justin> I love how he talks about Government and Enterprise devices like those aren't MDM managed and can easily disable sideloading.

(not a fan of total lockout though)

its hard to mess up the system integrity or install malware etc

Yea I mean, Apple is very good at making sure their devices stay "fresh" as an average user uses it

[matrix] <Justin> Let Users Decide: Not a Good Idea because users are dumb.

with the pinephone you build as much protection you want :P

lol

guys does the pinephone protect me from bad guys like apple does? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huC9lvQi47o

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Yep

[matrix] <Justin> It's just the latest buzz word I guess.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> xD yes

[matrix] <Justin> I mean nothing is serverless, you're just changing the naming 😀

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> https://aws.amazon.com/lambda/

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I think it was pioneered by AWS? It's kinda like an abstraction layer higher than containers where your code for your app/website API or whatever is split between independent functions for each endpoint that is managed by a cloud service

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> 😆

[matrix] <Justin> I probably should look up what serverless stuff is as I'm a SysAdmin 😆

[matrix] <Justin> Sounds like quite an interesting project!

[matrix] <Justin> Oh OK

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I'm using that as a platform for some extra additions for Plasma Mobile Nightly, like remote management of your device yea

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> It's the Sineware Cloud Services portal, so it's a separate project i'm working to provide open-source based cloud services (like github pages style static site hosting, ngrok style routing, serverless stuff, etc)

[matrix] <Justin> Is it some kind of MDM?

[matrix] <Justin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780913370626916407/1056708952877973584/Screenshot_2022-12-25_at_18-02-23_Sineware_Cloud_Portal.png

What is this for?

(managed by a daemon on the phone)

I want to get the plasma mobile nightly integration ready to ship soon hopefully

It'll add some fun stuff like log viewing, core dump manager, and other debugging things

Small preview of the current state of the Sineware Cloud Services portal

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-wrecking-ball-swing-gif-15821868

merry christmas

merry xmas

[matrix] <Justin> What exactly is sus?

sus

[matrix] <Justin> Oh man don't get me started on that. I've been trying to get myself organised and find the right to do list that's synced everywhere.

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> I really need a todo list or something 😅

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Oh I totally forgot about that

[matrix] <Justin> Seshan (seshpenguin) were you able to get libquotient daily builds happening?

[matrix] <Justin> 🥳

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> The Plasma Mobile Nightly repository server is back online 🎉

I also don't play genshin that much anymore anyway lol

oof

yea or on my ipad/whatever

so you play on windows?

just did that as an experiment

I don't actually play on wine much though

yea

do you play on official servers?

its ok there a patch to remove the anti cheat and then you can (suspiciously) run it in wine

blasphemy!!!

a linux enthusiast genshin impact player???

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> Posting again for the matrix people: The Plasma Mobile Nightly repository server (espidev.sineware.ca) will be going offline for a day or so.

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-gif-19687061

https://tenor.com/view/kde-linux-gif-22583419

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> we're back on varnish+hitch

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> guess I'm gonna stop using Caddy for now as the reverse proxy

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> looks like its back

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> oh

[matrix] <seshpenguin (legacy account)> test 1235

[matrix] <seshpenguin (legacy account)> test2

[matrix] <seshpenguin (legacy account)> test

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> but people cant access it through federation

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> the matrix server itself is fine connected directly

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> this is very cursed

no u

https://tenor.com/view/kde-linux-gif-22583419

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> test

i live at localhost

lol

also the matrix server died so i'm figuring what happened there

get doxxed

127.0.0.1

k

The Plasma Mobile Nightly repository server (espidev.sineware.ca) will be going offline for a day or so.

<@121377781950054403> is moving lol

ok nvm it has nothing to do with volume keys lol

i still cant reproduce it but it seems to have something to do with the volume down button

i had the issue again last night

is it possible to manually open the keyboard on a wayland window

panels didn't work for a whole month

it's always a gamble, git master has broken really often in the past few months

it said the drive was in use lol

that really really confused me when i tried to flash a new os to the sd card from the phone

unaware that it was running on it

so i treated them like that and never bothered to take the sd card out

like on desktop

i thought the images oses gave were installers

i thought i wasnt

actually i didnt mean to do that

i used to do that but it was too slow

lol theres only ever been one virus for the pinephone right?

If youre running from an SD card you can take an image of it before updating as a backup

technically not good from a security perspective but probably not a huge deal for a niche thing like this

yea you could if everything is working fine

i might use this and just do that

do you think its safe to just not update often?

damn thats rlly cool thx

open dolphin, in the location bar, type sftp://user@ip

hold spacebar

so i made a bitly link

and on angelfish i cant fully edit the url cuz plasma keyboard doesnt let me go left right

and i cant really copy it well

for some reason links from spacebar dont open

lol that works too

thx for the help tho

ok i ended up just making a bitly link to mega lol

copy an entire folder with scp -r

you just need scp on your computer (comes with openssh)

would copy "whatever_file" from your computer to the home folder on the phone

scp whatever_file user@your_phone_ip:~

how would i set that up?

ssh is enabled already on the nightly images

you can use scp

i have arch with plasma

is it possible to transfer files to my phone from computer?

thx

ok i think i found it

my plan is public mobile

how do i knoww what to set it to?

oh

you need to set the mmsc in spacebar's settings

i have the apn set

also i just tried to send myself a message thru email and it says no mmsc configured on spacebar

yee

i really need to get around to exploring how to coredump and log stuff better on pmos 🙃

yeah i might have time to do that on xmas vaction

well i reflashed now so ill see if it keeps happening

if you can replicate it on manjaro it's easier to trace

yeah its just kinda random

need coredumpctl to get crash dump, i guess you could try running the shell in gdb but it's annoying if you don't have a specific way to replicate it

pmos doesnt support logs?

oof

🥹

unfortunately it's not really possible to debug on postmarketos

sounds like the shell died

lock screen still loads fine

and the volume changer or anything doesnt work

yes

tes

what do you mean by disappearing, is the screen black?

nope

i wanna use phosh, but chatty has this wierd bug where messages come in way too late

yea

i cant have my phone shutting down when i try to unlock it

well at the moment i have to use it, because there was this insanelly annoying bug that espidev fixed that hasnt fully been released yet

(it was patched for the stable release but nightly was broken for a few days)

ex. a couple weeks ago there was a bug in plasma-workspace that caused the shell to not load at all

Yea I woudn't recommend manjaro dev or sineware nightly for daily use lol

this is my only phone lol

i dont mind reflashing every so often but i cant have it happen all the time

dev will have problems like that once in a while

manjaro stable shouldn't have that kind of things

is that just the same is pmos edge?

not booting

what about stability as in like

ok

not introducing different bugs compared to upstream

fine as in?

cuz rn im just using them because espidev fixed screen locking bug and i rlly need it to work properly

these days its fine I think

how often do they break?

damn seriously?

(mostly cause manjaro likes to change random configs and stuff)

there are times where my nightly builds are more stable than manjaro xD

manjaro "stability" 💀

yea that's the source of a lot of controversy lol

why doesnt pine64 pay plasma devs instead of manjaro lol

oof ok

not that I know of

so theres no workarounds?

yea this happens a lot

getting logs is one of the problems with pmos currently, it's something i hope I can get working properly for nightly in the future

oh and also auto suspend doesnt seem to always work and sometimes the battery drains

for this

how would i provide logs?

It sounds like a plasma issue, if you have the time you can try recreating the issue on stock postmarketos and manjaro dev

it seems to happen somewhat randomly

<@121377781950054403> have you seen this issue

has anyone else experienced this? is this a normal plasma issue or sineware issue?

on pinephone convergence package

im trying reflashing

I've been experiencing this issue where sometimes when i log back in everything just dissapears. if i was listening to music its still playing, and if i left an app open sometimes its still there but all the other system stuff dissapears

hi

(they are not)

I will do slight amount of trolling and check if mobian pre-builds are fixed

[matrix] <Justin> I too was confused at first as I do nightly builds for Fedora. But then I realised 5.101.0 was released recently and that means they'll be changing the version in the CMake files to 5.102 as the next version to be released.

Ah

[matrix] <Justin> Most frameworks got a version bump in cmake I think. Not a big change

Loads of stuff updated, nice

[matrix] <Justin> So Qt it is a fun thing, it's open source but also sold. I think Qt5 ended open source patching a while back which is why the KDE Qt patch collection exists.

it would be faster but I still havent gotten around to figuring out why distcc is only using 4 threads

probably a lot of package changes

looks like it

Also uh is build 135 really taking 5h?

Tho we won't be seeing plasma 6 for a while

Hopefully

it'll be fine with qt 6 I assume

lol

Wow uh definitely not confusing

The KDE project provides unofficial support for Qt 5.15 in the form of a collection of bugfix patches, most of which are backported from Qt 6.[5] As KDE has a policy of not assigning version numbers to their patches, Linux distributions use ad-hoc schemes when using this fork of Qt5: OpenSUSE, for example, calls its June 2021 version "5.15.2+kde200".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_version_history#Qt_5

apparently qt 5.15 is unsupported already for open source

I thought qt5.15.11 was out already

[matrix] <Justin> I'm not sure which May meant, Qt 5.15.6 on pmOS is only .1 behind 5.15.7 on Fedora.

Oh yea if you mean like qt 5 vs qt 6 then yea that needs to wait for plasma 6

[matrix] <Justin> Moving to the next major Qt version is a lot of work, lots of frameworks etc that need to be moved first.

Fair, plasma mobile is using older stable builds of qt for some reason

Yea it’s possible to add if there’s a reason to add it

Hm, i wonder if QT related stuff can also be updated in the nightly repo

Amazing

[matrix] <Justin> I got nothing rn 😄

[matrix] <Justin> Hold onto yer butts.

[matrix] <Justin> _picks up his OP6 _

[matrix] <Justin> 😄

[matrix] <Devin Lin> quiet chat = good times

when things break it gets more active lol

yeaa

slightly inactive server /s

using matterbridge now

ok the bridge is working again properly hopefully

[matrix] <Seshan (seshpenguin)> test

test

I'll fix it

oops lol

yeah this one doesn't work

oh what

discord link there is broken tho

I'm using the F1 too

awesome

using Plasma Mobile Nightly on the Poco F1, works nice

sup sup

yaaaay xD

Aaand I just got the no panels update 😄

Rise and shine, Mister Freeman. Rise and... shine. Not that I... wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest... and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until... well, let's just say your hour has... come again.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So, wake up, Mister Freeman. Wake up and... smell the ashes...

two in in name

adding a commit selection to the build script is gonna be useful in the future too

sure

could try manually building the commit prior to this to test

oh I should just read lol

image.png

is the implication that this isn't a problem in qt 6

image.png

yea i heard in the meeting

they switched to the basic qt render loop which causes the panels to not show for some reason

nice...

Devin Lin: panels are broken now lol

cross checking is useful

this is why many distros need to exist lol

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

manjaro moment

i guess ill wait a few days and it'll resolve itself maybe...

ok cool something really borked is happening on manjaro right now, not sure

on latest build

btw Devin Lin just tested panels are fine

would be neat!

I should get started on it!

Fedora image soooon™

I wanna make some better debug workflow for nightly

yea

i wish pmos had journalctl and coredumpctl

(maybe)

clearly plasma mobile nightly is the superior choice!!!!!

aaa

had such a long streak (1 month) of not bricked images...

cool

we'll see lol

well kwin is compiling right now so

i think kwin changed to single threaded rendering by default so i'm not sure

but the build from yesterday is fine on my pocophone

Theres a build running right now

idk if it's a kwin issue or packaging issue

are the panels showing on current master builds, manjaro is completely borked right now

Angelfish works again (also builds are much faster now, actually setup cross compiling for aarch64)

test1

test

Anyone able to confirm?

Angelfish crashing

Any chance of getting a libquotient git build added?

Damnit I'm getting used to using vim and I don't want that 😄

I may have disabled it a while back due to issues I was having 🤔

Ah I have no ipv6 it seems.

Probably because busybox wget doesn't fallback to ipv4 like GNU.

Um I dunno, never really noticed until that.

justin@oneplus6 ~> wget https://sineware.ca/static/swadmin-632219ce.rsa.pub
Connecting to sineware.ca ([2603:c021:1:3c01:391c:d648:2470:96c2]:443)
wget: can't connect to remote host: Network unreachable

Yeah.

As Alpine use wget from busybox, not from gnu.

Also a quick FYI maybe change the key add command on the webpage to curl -s https://sineware.ca/static/swadmin-632219ce.rsa.pub | sudo tee /etc/apk/keys/swadmin-632219ce.rsa.pub

Mostly underutilised lol

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Though ideally I get my work to get our last 2 Jenkins instances to disappear, I move our ARM server to our Gitlab instance and make it public.

Ooooooof

I'm working (well will be) on getting Fedora images built for my OnePlus 6 and have got my daily KDE builds already setup 😄

Damnit I'm getting used to using vim and I don't that 😄

I'll wait for today's builds and do an update, thanks!

As pmOS's wget wouldn't fall back to ipv4 when ipv6 failed.

32CPU / 128GB RAM

👍️

Put Jenkins runner on my OP6.

Yeah.

Possible

I wonder if these are libquotient functions and the older libquotient on Alpine is causing an issue?

QQmlApplicationEngine failed to load component
qrc:/main.qml:29:5: Type RoomPage unavailable
qrc:/RoomPage.qml:334:19: Type EventDelegate unavailable
qrc:/EventDelegate.qml:75:19: Type PollDelegate unavailable
qrc:/PollDelegate.qml:17:5: PollHandler is not a type

Tobias says we're not git master enough 🤣 - fixed yesterday.

I'll try now. BTW thanks for the repo!

Sorry had to redirect output to file and get it via ssh 😄

Neochat not starting on latest build.

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test

EST

seventy four

<@121377996555812866> what time you is?

I will add HSTS soon™️

doesn't automatically redirect to https smh my head

cool

woo the sineware website is done

this is the only channel bridged to matrix too so yea

this channel I guess lol

<:look:1012289389923147816>

where r the support cannels

yEs

sign wear so many notifica

🤔

🤔

lel

notification spam but it's useful so oh well

AAA

SIGN WEAR

sineware

sineware

🗿

good

good

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nice

ok

123

test

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